Applying New Epoxy over Old Epoxy

I frequently get calls and emails from folks who want to install our epoxy over an existing epoxy floor or coating that they have. They want to know if it is okay to go over it and what they have to do to properly prepare the surface.

If the existing epoxy is a good hard solid one that is well bonded to a well prepared substrate it is possible. On the other hand if you are replacing it, what is wrong with the existing epoxy? Has the existing epoxy been badly abused by heavy sharp objects being dragged on it? Was the exiting epoxy damaged by chemicals beyond the chemical resistance of the existing epoxy? Are you just trying to upgrade the look of the existing epoxy?

You should be concerned about going over epoxy that is coming loose from the substrate. That may mean that there was poor surface preparation. It may also mean that the quality of the epoxy might not be what it should be. You need to be concerned about epoxy that is wearing out. If it is wearing out you want to know why. My company and I personally started out as installers of epoxy. I have never seen or been made aware of any of Epoxy.com coatings and/or flooring systems that have worn out have come loose from the concrete. I have seen concrete so pounded by traffic that it came loose, but our epoxy was still attached and still doing its job. That is based on over 30 years of field experience with the products.

Back to the question, “can I put epoxy over epoxy?” I always assume that the reason that the epoxy is wearing out or coming loose is that the epoxy is low quality or the installation was poorly done or both until I can prove otherwise. The way that I do that is to attempt to grind or shot blast off the existing epoxy. If after a substantial effort the epoxy cannot be removed and I cannot hear a hollow sound under the existing epoxy, I feel I have proven that the existing material is solid and well bonded.

Let’s take a moment to discuss that dreaded hollow sound above. If the flooring system or coating is very poorly bonded you will get a sound from your grinder like you are dragging a piece of paper or a piece of stone under the grinder, or rubbing stone. When you tap it with a hammer you get a hollow higher pitch noise than you get when you tap solid concrete or a solid floor over concrete.

You must be sure that the substrate is free of all types of contamination, including but not limited to oil, grease, food fats, curing compounds, sealers, laitance, dirt, wax etc. The existing epoxy left behind must be well bonded, and sanded until it has no shine. See Epoxy Surface Preparation Procedures for more information on this subject.

The beauty of trying to get it off is you are removing all the shine and getting it ready to accept another layer of epoxy. Just before I install the new layer of epoxy I solvent wipe with xylene, let it dry. Then I recommend a coat either Epoxy.com Product #899 Primer or Epoxy.com Product #12 Chemical Resistant Primer. Then install epoxy as usual. For more surface preparation and installation tips please visit or “Where to Start” page at: http://www.epoxy.com/start/default.aspx

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Norm Lambert, President – Technical Support Director
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Seamless Epoxy Cove Installation Instructions

Epoxy cove detail
Epoxy Cove Detail. Click image above to enlarge.

One of the unique advantages of seamless flooring is the ability to build an integral cove base. This integral cove allows you to create a virtual bathtub or shower base out of your seamless floor. Building this cove was a difficult job until the introduction of Epoxy.com Product #720 Coving Gel – www.epoxy.com/720.aspx. The coving gel is mixed with special fillers to create an easy to install custom built floor to wall base cove.

Advantages of a Cove Base

  • Prevents water from going under the walls
  • In chemical containment applications contains the chemicals to the coved area
  • Makes it easy to clean and disinfect the edges of the floor
  • Does not allow bacteria or insects to hide under the wall
  • Gives the floor an attractive professional seamless look
  • Required by government officials in many food and pharmaceutical applications

Step 1, Surface Preparation

All high quality installations begin with proper surface preparation. The substrate must be clean, solid and porous. The substrate must be free of paint, sealers, oil, grease or any other contaminants that will interfere with the soaking in of the epoxy primer – www.epoxy.com/surfaceprep.aspx. Be sure the floor and wall in the areas near the cove are clean. That will help prevent dragging dirt and other contamination into the cove and make the tape to mask the cove stick better.

Step 2, striking a line

Cove is typically installed at 4 inches high, but specialty applications may be as little as 2 inches or as much as 6 or 8 inches or even more. Once you know the height of the cove it must be decided if the top of the cove will follow the contour of the floor or be level on the top. Most floors look best with a level top to the cove.

Strike a line with a laser level or a chalk line. Mask with a strong firmly bonding tape like duct tape. Be sure it is pressed down and securely stuck to the wall.

Step 3, priming

Make a small batch of Product #899 primer. Apply the primer on to the area to receive cove. This application is typically done with a brush or mini roller. It is important not to put the primer on too thick or it will run. You just need to have enough primer to give the surface to receive the cove a wet look.

If you have a very porous substrate and the primer soaks in and doesn’t look wet, a second coat of primer may be required. A typical substrate that will sometimes need a second is sheetrock. If a second coat if primer is required it can be put on before the first coat has hardened. Remember never to wait more than 1 day before recoating any epoxy.

Step 4, mixing the cove material

After the primer gets tacky and before the primer gets tack free (not sticky to the touch) you will need to install your #720 cove mix. If your primer becomes hard before you start troweling up you cove you must prime again. Colored quartz has different coving batch formulations than other seamless flooring types. Be sure to consult www.epoxy.com/720.aspx, for more information about cove mixes.

Step 5, troweling up the cove

Using a margin trowel “rough in” the cove mix material onto the wall where the cove is going. Be careful not to lift the tape creating the top seal in the process. Smooth the cove to shape using a cove trowel.

After the cove starts to get slight stiff it is time to make a final pass at smoothing the cove with your coving trowel. Be sure not to wait too long or the tape will be difficult to impossible to remove. Be sure to keep your trowel clean so it doesn’t drag the epoxy cove material and make it rough again.

A few drops of a dish washing detergent (like Dawn) in warm water make a great way to clean your trowel and slick up the cove. Use a rag to clean the cove in the water. Remove the cove trowel from the water and remove the excess water. Then return to slicking down your cove.

Once the cove is smooth enough, remove the duct tape, carefully. Remove the tape at an angle pulling the bottom first so the excess coving material on the tape stays on the tape and does not fall onto the cove. If pieces do fall on the cove gently remove the pieces and gently smooth out the damage.

Use our margin trowel to smooth the top of the cove where you just removed the duct tape. Use the warm water and dishwashing detergent to keep your trowel clean and slick the top of your cove.

Clean the excess material off from the bottom edge of your cove, unless you have already done this earlier.

Step 6, sealing the cove

After the coving material has hardened overnight, inspect and lightly sand out any minor imperfections.

Apply appropriate sealers (listed below). When in doubt, contact Epoxy.com Technical Support. Apply coating/sealer over the cove by brush and/or squeegee. Be sure that you do brush out or squeegee out any runs. Keep going back and checking for runs until satisfied that the glaze (top coating / sealer) will not run.

  1. Quartz coves are sealed by applying Epoxy.com Product #15 – www.epoxy.com/15.aspx.
  2. Pigmented Epoxy Coatings, use the same material that you are using on the rest of the floor.
  3. Chip Flooring.
  4. Apply Epoxy.com Product #315 Top Coating by brush over the cove mix.
  5. Then broadcast the cove into the wet material. If you are careful you can push the chip up into the coating with your hand or a piece of cardboard or similar material.

Step 7, install your floor

Install your floor in accordance with manufacturer’s recommendations.

Seamless epoxy chip flooring with seamless cove
Seamless epoxy chip flooring with seamless cove

Improved Epoxy Gel Adhesives Added to Epoxy.com

What are Epoxy Gel Adhesives

Epoxy Gel Adhesives are thickened 100% solid 2-Component Epoxy Resin and Epoxy Hardener systems. Epoxy Gel Adhesives come in various viscosities from whip cream consistency to clay consistency. Some Epoxy Gel Adhesives have a longer working time, and slow set. Some Epoxy Gel Adhesives have a short working time and fast set.

Epoxy Gel Adhesives can have a “high modulus of elasticity” (rigid), or a “low modulus of elasticity” (flexible to semi-flexible). All the Epoxy Gel Adhesives that we sell are very strong. Our Epoxy Gel Adhesives when applied to most common construction structural material that are properly prepared have a bond strength to the substrate greater than the tensile strength of the material you are bonding to. In other words if you go to pull it off from the substrate that you are bonded to, the substrate will fail before the bond of the Epoxy Gel Adhesive will fail.

Uses for Epoxy Gel Adhesives

Epoxy Gel Adhesives are one of the most versatile tools in the construction industry. Epoxy Gel Adhesives are useful for bonding concrete to concrete, wood to concrete, wood to wood, and for that matter most typical construction structural materials to other construction structural materials. Epoxy Gel Adhesives are also useful in patching and repairing inperfections in concrete, wood and steel. Epoxy Gel Adhesives have also successfully been used to repair wood damaged by termites, wet rot, or dry rot. Epoxy Gel Adhesives are used in setting dowel bars, anchor bolts, and ports for epoxy injection.

Newest Epoxy Gel Adhesives Added to Epoxy.com Product line.

Product #2005 Low Modulus Fast Setting Epoxy Gel is a two component 100% solids designed for shallow repair on either vertical or horizontal surfaces. This product is easy to mix and use and has the consistency of Vaseline petroleum jelly. Additionally, the product, because it is a 100% solids product, can be applied thicker on horizontal surfaces when required.

Product #2006 – Epoxy High-Mod Gel Adhesive and Bonding Resin is a 100% solids high-mod epoxy gel adhesive used for vertical and overhead bonding applications and structural repairs. Epoxy High-Mod Gel Adhesive and Bonding Resin – Product #2006 is also used as a grout for anchor bolts, dowels and rebar. Epoxy High-Mod Gel Adhesive and Bonding Resin – Product #2006 Meets ASTM C881 Requirements for Type I, Type II, Grade 3, Class B, C, D, E.

Product #2007 Epoxy Fresh Concrete to Hardened Concrete Adhesive is a two component, 100% solids epoxy resin system designed to bond new concrete to old and other materials to concrete. It has a convenient 2:1 mix ratio, by ASTM C-881-90, Types I, II, IV and V, Grade 2, Class “B” and “C” volume with a viscosity similar to heavyweight oil. Epoxy Fresh Concrete to Hardened Concrete Adhesive #2007 (adhesive) exceeds the requirements of ASTM C-881 Type II, Grade 2, Class “B” “C” “D” and E.

Product #2011 Low Modulus Fast Set Epoxy Gel is a two component 100% solids polymer system designed for applications where a resilient joint material is needed. The two component material (standard) is supplied with a gray component and a clear component. Product #2011 was developed for plural component pump equipment, and is available in cartridge units.

Product #2704 Epoxy Gel Super Fast Cure is a fast setting, 100% solids epoxy crack gel and filler used to line, patch, or repair floor and wall surfaces. Epoxy Gel Super Fast Cure Product #2704 is the ideal material for repair of surfaces damaged from environmental or chemical attack. Epoxy Gel Super Fast Cure Product #2704 can also be used as a base material beneath coating, slurry, and mortar systems to repair before coating.

Product #2707 Splash Zone Epoxy and Underwater Epoxy Paste is a moisture-insensitive, two-component, 100% solids epoxy-resin system. Splash Zone Epoxy and Underwater Epoxy Paste Product #2707 is mixed at a 2:1 ratio, by volume, this product produces a paste-like material that is ideal for protection or restoration of concrete, steel and timber piles and other structural elements in marine environments.

Limitations

Epoxy.com does not recommend using any epoxy gel adhesive to bond anything to a ceiling without reliable mechanical methods of attachment as well.

More Information on Epoxy Gel Adhesives

Contact Epoxy.com Technical Support by phone 352-533-2167 or email info@epoxy.com for more information.

 

How to Insure a Quality Installation of Epoxy

Epoxy Technical Support

By: Norm Lambert President and Technical Support Director

Your Successful Installation of Our Products is Our #1 goal.

When my wife Deb and I founded this company we made a promise to each other, our employees, and our customers to only provide high quality highly durable products, at an affordable cost, backed by the best technical support in the industry. Our company is a family owned company, large enough to fill any order given to us, but small enough to care about every order, even a single unit order.

Selecting the Right Epoxy Product for the Right Job

Technical support is where successful installations begin. Even the best products, at the best price are not the most affordable products if they are the wrong products for the job, or if they are installed incorrectly. Selecting the Right Product for the Right Job isn’t just a motto, it is a necessary part of a successful epoxy installation.

We look forward to your phone calls asking for our assistance in helping you select your product. We have decades of experience in our field, but you know your project the best. Together with what you know and what we know, we can find which of our products best suite your needs.

Once in a great while we have requests for which we don’t currently carry a product to successfully accomplish your goals. If we don’t have the Right Product for your job, we will also tell you that. It is the only way you can know that if we recommend a product from your description or specification, that it is the best one to suit your needs.

Dedicated Customer Service

Katey Fontaine, VP  and Chief Operations Officer and Director of Customer Service, is dedicated in doing everything she can to get your order taken quickly, and accurately. She then keeps track of the progress of each order to make sure that they get out of our facilities as quickly as possible and on to our customers who are eager to get started with their work.

Katey also works with the trucking companies that pick up the product and deliver it to you.  She has negotiated the best possible freight and ground rates so we can pass on the lowest possible shipping charges using the most reliable carriers.

Epoxy Installation Technical Support

Our technical support department’s job is just starting after you get our products in your hands.  We are dedicated to making sure that we answer all your questions clearly and accurately.  I WANT your follow up questions.  I have customers who are installing who apologize for contacting me with questions they feel are “trivial”, when in fact those questions might be the most important ones to ask for a successful high quality installation.

Our technical support staff each have decades of field and technical support experience. In most cases we have done something like, or very similar to what you are doing. So it makes it easy for us to understand your situation, and help your installation go as smoothly as possible.

The Ultimate Epoxy Selection, Ordering, and Installation Experience.

All of us here want to be sure you are delighted with your whole experience from your first phone call or email, until you are enjoying the benefits of of our products and your installation, for decades to come. We view your success as our success. Remember, your successful installation of our products is our #1 goal.

Proper mixing and installation is critical to the optimal success  of all product.  See  Installation Tips,Techdata, &MSDS for more details on our products.   Be sure to contact us with any questions and/or concerns that you  have.For more information please contact:

Epoxy.com A Division of Epoxy Systems, Inc  20774 W. Pennsylvania Ave. Dunnellon, Florida 34431 Hundreds  of Systems, Since 1980 – Over 33 years Florida & Vermont USA